Drag Race, saying: ‘Regular, straight pop culture has liberally lifted things from gay culture as long as I can remember.’

Speaking to Vulture, the star dismissed the LL Cool J’s US show and its international versions in brilliantly cutting style.

‘I don’t think of it,’ he says. ‘It’s a poor rip off of our show. That’s fine, because guess what? We have so much more where that comes from. Take it!’


Explaining how drag will never be mainstream and describing an aversion to the talk show circuit, the Gay for Play star added: ‘I’ve never been on Ellen or David Letterman or The Tonight Show, and there’s a reason for that, which I don’t want to go into, but there’s a reason that I’ve never been thought of as someone who can go on there.

‘Because it makes those hosts feel very, very uncomfortable, especially if we really talked. It would be the opposite of what they’re used to. So am I part of the mainstream? No. People know my name, people know what I look like, but am I invited to the party? No, and there’s a reason for it.’

He added: ‘Any time I’ve had yearnings to go, “Aw, gee, I wish I could be invited to the Emmys,” I say, Ru, Ru, remember the pact you made. You never wanted to be a part of that bullshit. In fact, I’d rather have an enema than have an Emmy.’

When asked whether it’s important for the younger generation to learn the history and traditions of drag, he replied:I don’t know. I don’t really care about them. The truth is, they’re on their own. They’ll figure it out. There’s nothing we can do to force them to say, “Look, this is important.”


‘Humans don’t learn that way. I think about New York, and I had such a fucking great time there. Do I wish young people could experience that? Yes! Yes, I do. Am I going to work it out for them? No, bitch, you’re fucking on your own. Work it out for yourself.’